From the beginning, Sommerer & Mignonneau have taken a playful, experimental approach to their work, that invites for new insights and reflections on artificial life, nature, but also strongly on the self, the way we interact with each other, and ultimately how we communicate.
Humor is also a particular feature of numerous works, such as Magic Eye – Dissolving Borders (2010), which confronts the users with unexpected interactions with an old radio that emits embarrassing sounds that we usually try to hide in public; or the Egometer (2017), which is translated into sympathy scores towards the artists. In Schall und Rauch (2012) two users are invited to communicate via vintage telephones. However, inspired by a German proverb meaning “It’s all hollow words”, the recipient only hears noise instead of intelligible words, which are also accompanied by smoke evaporating from the mouthpiece.
What all these works have in common is not only the humorous functions of the devices, but also narratives about media history and how technological developments affect interpersonal, societal, or human-machine interactions and behavior.
Lastly, if we look at works like Mobile Feelings (2002-03), where the human sense of touch was of special concern for the artists and expanded into teletactility 9 or telehaptics, many of the early works mentioned above were not without reason described as "epoch making" at the time.
Mobile Feelings II, which was recently exhibited again in the retrospective show "Art as a Living System", is an installation for two participants, who can sense the heartbeat and a faint whiff of the breath of each other by using futuristic, egg-like devices. As if one could almost ascribe precognitive abilities to the artist duo, this work takes on a whole new dimension after the events of the past two years and lets us reflect on what Christa Sommerer and Laurent Mignonneau intended to convey already 20 years ago: “Given that human communication (…) often also includes unspoken, intuitive and sensual information exchanges, we set out to construct wireless communication devices that would let users communicate in a very intuitive, emotional and private manner. The sense of touch still remains one of our most private sensations for which we still lack a concise descriptive language.”10
1 Stocker, Gerfried. In Christa Sommerer - Laurent Mignonneau: Interactive Art Research, edited by Gerfried Stocker (Wien, New York: Springer Verlag, 2009)
2 Kluszczyński, Ryszard W. “From Artificial Ecosystems to Critical Reflection. An Introduction to the Analysis of the Work of Christa Sommerer and Laurent Mignonneau.” In Wonderful Life: Laurent Mignonneau + Christa Sommerer (Gdańsk: Laznia Centre for Contemporary Art, 2012), p. 2
3 This work was exhibited again in the retrospective exhibition “Art as a Living System” at ZKM Karlsruhe and OK Linz in 2022/2023.
4Langton, Christopher G. “Artificial Life: Proceedings of an interdisciplinary workshop on the synthesis and simulation of living systems” (United States, web publication, Volume VI, 1987) p. 9
5 Weibel, Peter. “The Art of the Artificial” in Christa Sommerer - Laurent Mignonneau: Interactive Art Research, edited by Gerfried Stocker (Wien, New York: Springer Verlag, 2009), p. 16
6 Sommerer, C., Mignonneau, L. “Life Writer” URL: digitalartarchive.at/database/general/work/life-writer.html
7 Sommerer, C., Mignonneau, L. “Between Decay and Preservation: A Personal Approach to Media Art Archiving” in Proceedings of the 22nd International Symposium on Electronic Art ISEA2016, Hong Kong. p.206
8 Sommerer, C., Mignonneau, L. “Portrait on the Fly - Plotter Drawings” URL: digitalartarchive.at/database/general/work/portrait-on-the-fly-plotter-drawings.html
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Christa and Laurent, let’s start with a more personal question. You met at the Städelschule Institute for New Media in Frankfurt in 1991 and you have been working, living, creating, thinking together ever since. What did you essentially learn from each other over all those years?
C+L: This is a very good question. I think when one works in a team for so many years, one starts to understand the other partner quite well, what he/she likes, what he/she finds interesting and how he/she artistically works. What we like, that even when you know the other artistic partner well, there are always lots of surprises and unexpected propositions coming up. If one of us proposes a new idea then we sit together and negotiate these ideas together, whether it is Laurent´s idea or Christa´s. Sometimes you have to fight for your idea, because at the end of the day we only realize a project when we are both convinced that it is a good idea. There is also some trust you develop over the years, because you know the capacity of the other and already have an intuition of what she/he means and what she/he plans to do.
What is the exciting or most interesting moment when you transform natural systems or biological behaviors into your digital environments?
C: It is this moment when you see something abstract but still life-like. It vaguely reminds you to a feature in nature, for example some swarming, some movement or some natural phenomena. But it can also be something more conceptual, that challenges our vision, our perception or our sensation about art and nature.
L: For me, it is the moment when you realize that you get carried away with the amount of possibilities, that you will not experience all the aspects of some of the works, especially the ones that involve evolution as their core principle.
Randomness and unpredictability play an important role in your artworks. Why?
C: There is a lot of randomness, or shall we say mutations in nature. There is not one plant, animal or human that looks exactly the same as any other. Nature is full of variations and individuality. Even stones are unique, you will hardly find exactly the same stone. One might ask why nature puts all this effort into creating so many variations. This is absolutely fascinating and in our artworks, we like to work with this variability and unpredictability.
L:. I have been working with randomness since a long time as an artist, even before we met. I used randomness for music algorithmic compositions on computers in the 80's and for sound generation, I also used it for live improvisations with electronic and physical instruments as well as for effects on my artistic video production .I have a long history with randomness in the art field and it took all its sense when I worked with algorithms dealing with genetic principles. Randomness in itself has not a particular form, it is only through managing it and filtering it in time and space that it can help for the elaboration of a form, whether it is for a sound, a shape, a picture or an event. Natural evolution uses randomness a lot for acquiring new possibilities, it is an opportunistic principle that memorizes those random factors to carry them further in time, leading to unpredictable paths, and the beauty of it is that it remains unarbitrary.
Many of your works, if not all of them, have a playful character and some are even very humorous and funny. Do you “plan in” the playfulness and humor or does it come naturally when you conceptualize new works? How is the process of conceptualizing a funny, entertaining, or playful artwork?
C: Yes, we like it when people who interact with our works feel good and play with them. However, playfulness is not the main goal. Through interacting, people "enter" the artworks, they co-create them and the bodily engage with them. In this way they also might get closer to understanding the concept of the work. For us it is very satisfying to see how people engage with the artworks and how they "bring them to life."
L: Interactivity is never neutral, there is on the one hand the intensions of the artists and the perception of the visitors and both at play at the same time. Our intensions include a large part of discovery, curiosity with eventual surprises left for the visitors, having some humoristic elements in the works can contribute to this exploration as a friendly encouragement to interact further.
Together you established the Master program Interface Cultures at the University for Art and Design in Linz, Austria, in 2004 and you were the leading duo ever since. Christa will be the first one to leave this era behind early this year. After almost 20 years teaching Media Art and Digital Art, could you briefly describe some observations you had over the years? How did the technology change and influence the art students and their topics over time?
C: his is also a good question, and I am still pondering upon it. For the moment I can say that when we started the Interface Cultures Department in 2004, many colleagues did not have a very good opinion about media art. For them making art with computers was too geeky, too technophile and not "real art". It was mostly because they lacked the experience working with digital tools and digital media. This was at a time when few people had computers and it was also long before the mobile phones became omnipresent. Since the last 10 years a lot of things have changed in the art context and now almost everyone in the arts is using digital tools as well. Now it is normal to combine various analogue techniques with digital techniques, methods and tools. This has really given a great push to media art, and these types of programs are firmly integrated in the curriculum now. Also, people in the arts start to get more accustomed to interactivity, VR, AR and other digital art tools and methods. So, in a way it is great to have been involved to trailblaze a new art genre at the University of Art in Linz and see how it prospers and grows and matures. From a small baby in 2004, the Interface Cultures Department, has now turned into an almost adult teenager, who keeps growing and develops its own agenda and style. We can see now so many hybrid projects by the students, be it AI and art, bio-tech and art, VR, AR and art, gaming and art, fashionable technologies and art, Critical Data Art, stage-based interaction and performance art and many, many more. The possibilities seem almost endless and it is so exciting to see what young artists and creators are working on right now.
From 2020 to 2024 Interface Cultures is part of the research project “LeFo” together with a team from the Center of Image Science at the University for Continuing Education in Krems. For this project you have two big goals – one is to fully archive and document your oeuvre and research on ADA, and the other is to create a prototype for an alternative virtual archive experience, which was mainly developed by your colleague Tiago Martins. What were the most interesting and insightful moments during the archiving and developing process for you and your team?
C+L: The LeFo project is really a great opportunity to digitize our big archive of media art which we have assembled over the past 30 years. We have scanned around 300 books and exhibition brochures since 1992. Many of them are not available on the Internet and only exist in a printed form. To make them available in the ADA Archive of Digital Art will give scholars access to these types of early beginnings of media art. The documents will show how this scene developed from a small group of insiders and a few festivals into a much bigger community of digital arts as we have it now. Scanning, sorting and archiving these materials is a great way of looking back at this history and it will be a great source for media art scholars to research on topics that are still very valid today. As for the Ar(t)chive AR Prototype that Tiago Martins developed with us, we are happy about how it is perceived so far in the two exhibitions we had at the ZKM in Karlsruhe and at the OK Center in Linz. Here we saw that people are getting ready to navigate through large amounts of data in an Augmented Reality setting. In the future we want to connect the prototype to the actual ADA Archive and then users can navigate through the archive very intuitively: using their hand gestures and full body to explore media art, artists, topics, images, texts, sounds and all their interconnections in a playful and entertaining way. Especially when observing young people using the system, we feel that AR will be the future for these types of media art archives.
What are your plans for the near future? Do you work on new projects?
C+L: For the moment we are concentrating on planning the next two stations of our big traveling retrospective show. In April 2023 "The Artwork as a Living System" will be exhibited at iMAL in Brussels, and we already plan the next station at Azkuna Zentroa in Bilbao in early 2024. Besides that, there are a few shows coming up as well and some travels. As for new projects, we are working on an online garden project for this summer. I will also take some time to go back into plant studies and plant drawings, one of my passions I did not have time to follow up. And of course gardening will also be given more space and time.